Dan Black is correct, the Hebrew word קהל (kahal, Strong's #6951) is translated in the 2,000 year old Greek Septuagint translation of the Hebrew with the Greek word ekklesia. Both kahal (Hebrew) and ekklesia (Greek) meaning "meeting." Interestingly ekklesia is derived from the Hebrew word kahal, notice they both contain the ancient KL root.
The Hebrew word kahal is also translated in the Greek Septuagint with the Greek word synagogue, a Greek word meaning "gathering."
Nomad Man (Jeff A. Benner) --I believe everything I believe is true, but I believe that not everything I believe is true.
Interestingly, the english word we now use as "church" doesn't have the same meaning as kahal in Hebrew or ekklesia in Greek.
Many words we now use in the Scriptures, doesn't match the original words in Hebrew or Greek and this is one of them.
William Tyndale used the word "assembly" or "congregation" to match "kahal" and "ekklesia". Most of Tyndale's work was used by King James and he replaced the word congregation for the word "church". He also renamed the Book of James after himself. Most of the leadership in Scotland and England were into the occult.
We all have been indoctrinated to think a synagogue or church is in reference to a building. We all are familiar with buildings of worship by Judaism and what is called "christianity" and refer to them as synagogues and churches whereas the original intent was in reference to the people come together to congregate.
The etymology of the word "church" comes from the Scottish word "kirk" which when traced back had to do with the worship of the Queen of Heaven. She was known by various names throughout history and in the Agean Sea area, her name was Circe, pronounced with a "k" sound, which is where the Scottish word "kirk" comes from. The circle is one of her symbols and is found throughout history and places like Stone Hendge were used to worship Circe. The eight spoke wheel is famous throughout history and is found in many prominent places today. The Eighteenth dynasty of Egypt, which is the dynasty of the Pharaoh Akhenaten famous in the Exodus and the destruction of his army and priests. It is the only dynasty that had eight spoke wheels according to Zawi Hawass head of Egyptian Antiquities, and these were found at the crossing between Nuwieba and Saudi Arabia were the Exodus crossing took place.
Our English word "circle" and "circus" is derived from the name Circe.
Most groups who call themselves a "church" have no idea the origin of this word and they have King James to thank for the switch. Most other English translations following the King James Version used this erroneous word.
When the real Jews disobeyed the Almighty YaHWeH and returned to Egypt, not only were they worshipping this Queen of Heaven, they told Yerem-YaH (Jeremiah) and YaHWeH they wouldn't stop [Jer. 44:1-28]. YaHWeH then took HIS NAME from their mouths [verse 26].
This Queen of Heaven is the mother/wife of the Mighty Nimrod [Gen. 10:8-9] who took over the building of the Tower of Babel and throughout history was worshipped as the Sun God and refered to as Baal. His mother/wife was known as Venus and the Moon goddess, who is honoured in the day Monday. She is also known as Easter. Each day of the week has been renamed in honour of these two rebels. One religion on this earth has the crescent moon and the "star" Venus on their flag. She is Baal-alah.
The tall obelisks from Egypt tapering off to a point is in reference to Nimrod and the eight spoke circle where the obelisk sits in the hub, is in reference to Shemiramis, a blond haired woman married to Cush the father of Nimrod . Nimrod married his mother and this started the "mother and child" worship.
For more information read the following on the word "church"....
chilkyah: thrue delve, scrutiny,inquisition pesitently, i receive discernment that the name jesus = iesus = id est sus = this is zeus. This conclusion relates to the fact the chiristianism was diffused in latia language, that is latin and neing this, in acts 14:12
Nov 11, 2014 13:38:50 GMT -5
chilkyah: ( sorry the word is persistently ). Barnabas they called zeus and Shaul they called Appolos, concording with the fatc that zeus is the gos of heven, thunder, god of all gods, and god crator of all mankind.
Nov 11, 2014 13:41:59 GMT -5
chilkyah: shallowm shabbat riachem, please enlight ragard "DOGS" why are they so despised by hebrews.
Nov 21, 2014 12:38:10 GMT -5
magnusolu: please draw MS for me in Ancient Hebrew
Nov 22, 2014 11:50:07 GMT -5
doctorate: shalom everybody!
Nov 26, 2014 6:57:37 GMT -5
doctorate: I am from Iraq, mother tongue is Arabic, I want some advises on learning Hebrew to read the Bible
Nov 26, 2014 6:58:48 GMT -5
doctorate: Which rout would be easier for me to start with Hebrew via Arabic (I noticed much similarity) or Hebrew via English? How long does it take to start decipher what in the Bible? Would Hebrew help decipher Greek of the NT or is as good as Hebrew via English?
Nov 26, 2014 7:17:35 GMT -5
zecheriyah: To all of the above posters, I recommend opening a thread should you want to receive responses. Shalom.
Nov 26, 2014 12:17:31 GMT -5
joehoffmann: Jeff discussed man being the tinder in the fire, (http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/12_fire.html). I'm trying to follow "fire" or esh through the scriptures and I'm having a hard time finding a concurrence that man is tinder. Any answers?
Nov 27, 2014 10:03:44 GMT -5
Seeker of the Truth: Jeff is perhaps describing the similarity between the Hebrew word אש esh "fire" and the word איש ish "man." Jeff says that they come from the same parent root, אש ash.
Nov 27, 2014 23:40:38 GMT -5
doctorate: the same canon of King James Version
Nov 28, 2014 13:47:47 GMT -5
entte: i'm new here (also quite new to a forum like this) and want to introduce myself, but am not sure how all this works. Is this "shout box" where i am supposed to introduce myself and if yes, is this also the place to ask a question?
Dec 1, 2014 13:30:08 GMT -5
entte: ok, found the place i'm supposed to introduce myself...
Dec 1, 2014 13:35:06 GMT -5