Dan Black is correct, the Hebrew word קהל (kahal, Strong's #6951) is translated in the 2,000 year old Greek Septuagint translation of the Hebrew with the Greek word ekklesia. Both kahal (Hebrew) and ekklesia (Greek) meaning "meeting." Interestingly ekklesia is derived from the Hebrew word kahal, notice they both contain the ancient KL root.
The Hebrew word kahal is also translated in the Greek Septuagint with the Greek word synagogue, a Greek word meaning "gathering."
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Interestingly, the english word we now use as "church" doesn't have the same meaning as kahal in Hebrew or ekklesia in Greek.
Many words we now use in the Scriptures, doesn't match the original words in Hebrew or Greek and this is one of them.
William Tyndale used the word "assembly" or "congregation" to match "kahal" and "ekklesia". Most of Tyndale's work was used by King James and he replaced the word congregation for the word "church". He also renamed the Book of James after himself. Most of the leadership in Scotland and England were into the occult.
We all have been indoctrinated to think a synagogue or church is in reference to a building. We all are familiar with buildings of worship by Judaism and what is called "christianity" and refer to them as synagogues and churches whereas the original intent was in reference to the people come together to congregate.
The etymology of the word "church" comes from the Scottish word "kirk" which when traced back had to do with the worship of the Queen of Heaven. She was known by various names throughout history and in the Agean Sea area, her name was Circe, pronounced with a "k" sound, which is where the Scottish word "kirk" comes from. The circle is one of her symbols and is found throughout history and places like Stone Hendge were used to worship Circe. The eight spoke wheel is famous throughout history and is found in many prominent places today. The Eighteenth dynasty of Egypt, which is the dynasty of the Pharaoh Akhenaten famous in the Exodus and the destruction of his army and priests. It is the only dynasty that had eight spoke wheels according to Zawi Hawass head of Egyptian Antiquities, and these were found at the crossing between Nuwieba and Saudi Arabia were the Exodus crossing took place.
Our English word "circle" and "circus" is derived from the name Circe.
Most groups who call themselves a "church" have no idea the origin of this word and they have King James to thank for the switch. Most other English translations following the King James Version used this erroneous word.
When the real Jews disobeyed the Almighty YaHWeH and returned to Egypt, not only were they worshipping this Queen of Heaven, they told Yerem-YaH (Jeremiah) and YaHWeH they wouldn't stop [Jer. 44:1-28]. YaHWeH then took HIS NAME from their mouths [verse 26].
This Queen of Heaven is the mother/wife of the Mighty Nimrod [Gen. 10:8-9] who took over the building of the Tower of Babel and throughout history was worshipped as the Sun God and refered to as Baal. His mother/wife was known as Venus and the Moon goddess, who is honoured in the day Monday. She is also known as Easter. Each day of the week has been renamed in honour of these two rebels. One religion on this earth has the crescent moon and the "star" Venus on their flag. She is Baal-alah.
The tall obelisks from Egypt tapering off to a point is in reference to Nimrod and the eight spoke circle where the obelisk sits in the hub, is in reference to Shemiramis, a blond haired woman married to Cush the father of Nimrod . Nimrod married his mother and this started the "mother and child" worship.
For more information read the following on the word "church"....
danblack: no problem ...eelohim ... the Hebrew language letters that you quote refer to this Aramaic language document http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekilta_de-Rabbi_Ishmael
Apr 28, 2014 19:17:23 GMT -5
danblack: you can also see the Aramaic language document here, eelohim http://books.google.com/books?id=iyEf6jBYd5UC&pg=PA60&lpg=PA60&dq=%D7%9C%D7%9E%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%9E%D7%94+%D7%95%D7%9E%D7%9C%D7%9B%D7%95%D7%AA&source=bl&ots=FgRs2xnb6A&sig=CzAX-yp1cOo-UbZeSJkbwGZ
Apr 28, 2014 19:18:39 GMT -5
danblack: eelohim .. you may wish to contact this university for assistance with the translation of that document you quote.
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eelohim: Thank you very much, danblack!
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340valnt: hi everyone i'm trying to follow with greco thinking I got here by trying to figure out what the reference #s are in the MT What do they reference to its not strongs
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bookingly: I am new to this forum. I have noticed that on a Google search of "1891 version of Salkinson-Ginsberg's Hebrew New Testament", each result comes up with "Missing:1891 salkinson ginsberg's" or just "Missing: 1891 ginsberg's". Can anyone explain this pleas
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gregory.bartholomew: When Google says "missing" followed by some tokens/words, it means that the results that follow were found by omitting the listed tokens/words from the search request. It sometimes does that when there are relatively few matches. It's just trying to help.
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eldoll: Hi, I just joined. I'm doing research on the Spirit & found that the Interlinear bible has the Strongs #7307 for the word spirit, but there are two Hebrew words: ruwach (or haaruwach) & ruwchow. Please help identify the distinction between the two words.
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